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Pick and describe the worst act between the Gentlemen's Agreement and the Chinese Exclusion Act. Why is it the worst one? AND: are there any redeeming qualities to either act, or are they both junk?
This posting is due by the start of your history class on FRIDAY, September 4.
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I think the worst act is the Chinese Exclusion Act because the Chinese didn't get any benefit out of it, their laborers just couldn't come over to America anymore and that was that. In the Gentlemen's Agreement, the Japanese that were in America already at least got the benefit of schooling, so I guess that is a redeeming quality. But otherwise they're both junk.
ReplyDeleteSteph Vertin Block 4
I believe that the worse of the two acts would have to be the Chinese Exclusion Act because unlike the Gentlemen's Agreement, it was one sided. In the Gentlemen's Agreement, at least the Chinese, Japanese, and Korean students were allowed to go to the same school as other children in return for Japan to stop issuing passports. However, in the Chinese Exclusion Act, the Chinese labors were prohibited from entering the country. Looking back, both of these look like garbage, but at the time it may have appeared to be a good idea because Chinese and Japanese laborers were taking many jobs and accepted low wages. This affected the rates of pay of all workers.
ReplyDeleteAustin Livingston
I think the worst act was the Chinese Exclusion act because all it did was prohibit chinese laborers from entering the country.On the other hand, the Gentlemen's agreement also prevented laborers from entering the country but, it also let Japanese children go to the same school as all other children.
ReplyDeleteHannah Pitz
I think that the chineese exclution act was worse because it only benifited one party, the Americans. The chineese where literally stuck in a place that does not accept them and accually "proved" that the chineese where inferrior to white men and women. Both where pretty bad but at least the japanesse got to go the the schools.
ReplyDeleteJordan Jensen
Out of either I'd have to say the Chinese Exclusion act, but, it was hard. Both were so completely predjudiced and unfair but the Gentlerman's agreement offered more to the Japanese. One of the things that does bug me about the Gentleman's agreement though is that in the textbook it had said that the Japanese workers did not affect the other workers in the area although they were paid less. In the Chinese Exclusion act the Chinese gained nothing and many of them (the railroad workers) didn't even want to be in the states to begin with, all they wanted was an opportunity to make some money for their families. So, although both were quite cruel, I'd have to say the Chinese exclusion act was the worst.
ReplyDeleteDanielle Henckel
I would have to say that the Chinese Exclusion because the Gentleman's agreement benefitted two parties and the Chinese Exclusion only benefitted the Americans. The was one redeeming quality in the Gentleman's agreement because it at least slightly benefitted the Japanese instead of just the Americans because they got to go to the schools. I don't think that it completely redeems that agreement, but I think it helps a little compared to the Chinese Exclusion act.
ReplyDeleteI think the Chinese Exclusion Act because they did not allow them into the country...whereas in the Gentlemen's agreement it helped 2 sides.
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ReplyDeleteMaggie S. Block 4
Although both the documents seemed to have invalid points and reasonings, as well as growing the idea of racism, I would have to say that the worse act of the two would be the Chinese Exclusion Act. The Gentlemen agreement was only in one city, where the Chinese Exclusion Act was effecting the country as a whole. There was also the factor that the Chinese Exclusion Act was many years longer than was the Gentlemen's Agreement. The Gentlemen's Agreement also still let the Japanese attend schools, making them still benefit at least a little bit from the agreement, whereas the Chinese Exclusion Act was there was really nothing positive or something that the Chinese where benefiting from, meaning it was all loss and no gain in the act.
ReplyDeleteBrianna Fochs, Block 3bc.
I think that the Chinese Exclusion Act was worse because the Chinese were not allowed into the USA. It diddnt really do anything else except say that the labors couldnt come into our counrty anymore.
ReplyDeleteMiranda Micke Block 4
The chinese Exclusion Act was worse becuase the Chinese were flat out band from the U.S. without any say. Not only was it unfair, but created a huge discrimination twards Asians in the US. The gentleman's agreement wasnt quite as bad because both countries got something out of it.
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ReplyDeleteI believe that the Chinese Exclusion act was worst than the gentlemans agreement becuase not only did it last longer but it benifited no party. The act also ecouraged immigrants to discriminat the chinese. Although the gentlemans act was bad at least there was the small positivity of allowing japanese immigrants to have schooling.
ReplyDeleteBoth of the acts were made in my opinion out of selfishness and immaturity. Both are junk because it involved pure hatred.
Brenna Johnson block 4
I think the Chinese Exclusion Act is much more worse than the Gentlemen's Agreement. I feel this way because it was a more official law than the Gentlemen's Agreement, and it lasted a lot longer. Both acts were unfair to the immigrants, but with the Gentlemen's Agreement it also had a positive. It allowed San Francisco to stop its school policy which helped out the Japanese students, so it was a reedeming quality. I feel they are both very negative and unfair acts that our country passed, so they are junk.
ReplyDeleteAmy Baker- Block 3bc
I also think the Chinese Exclusion act was worse, although neither were very good of course. The Chinese were not allowed into the country. The ones who were already in the US were discriminated against. For example from the picture today, the Chinese weren’t allowed in the photo for the finishing of the railroad. We hid that we were using them as hard laborers and being selfish about it. They weren't allowed much and were in work which did nothing for them. I think they’re just junk because its discrimination and it seemed to only be against Asians
ReplyDeleteEmily Christoph, Block 4
i think that the chinese exclusion act was worse than the gentlemen's agreement because in the gentlemen's agreement japan and america benefitted from it but in the chinese exclusion act america was the only one who benefitted anything.
ReplyDeleteThe Chinese Exclusion Act was much worse than the Gentlemen's Agreement, for the Asians, but for the Americans, the Chinese Exclusion Act was probably much better. The Chinese Exclusion Act prohibited the Chinese laborers from entering the country which stopped the wages for the union laborers from dropping. On the other hand, while the Gentlemen's Agreement stopped the Japanese laborers from having passports to come to America, it didn't really matter as much because the Japanese did not compete with union laborers as the Chinese had. So, the Gentlemen's Agreement, in my opinion, was better than the Chinese Exclusion Act because it was more fair, but to the Americans back when they created these acts, they most likely felt as though the Chinese Exclusion Act was more beneficial. Now both the acts seem like junk because there was really no need for them other than because the Americans were greedy.
ReplyDeleteCourtney Vandenberg
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The Chinese Exclusion Act was worse because it didn't allow the Chinese into our country. Whereas the Gentlemen's Agreement Act allowed the Japanese into schooling. The Japanese and Americans both benifitted in the Gentlemens Agreement. But, in the Chinese Exclusion Act, the Americans were the only people that benifitted. Therefore, I believe the Chinese Exclusion Act was worse. Although I'd still say they're both junk.
ReplyDeleteHayley Bruss
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I think that the Chinese Exclusion Act was worse than the Gentlemen's Agreement because not only was the Chinese not allowed to enter the US, their ancestry fell considerably. At least in the Gentlemen's Agreement we were able to compromise and the Japanese were allowed into schools. Both sides benifited making it fair, unlike the Chinese Exclusion Act. I do believe that the Chinese Exclusion Act was the worse of the two, but i think that they were both unnecessary.
ReplyDeleteStephanie Hansen 3bc
I think the Chinese Exclusion Act was worse than the Gentleman's Agreement for a few reasons. One thing that differentiated the two is that the Chinese Exclusion Act was made legal by the government. I think this was an unjust decision because The Chinese Exclusion Act was a direct contradiction to what America had previously promised immigrants. In the case of the Gentleman's Agreement, nothing was made official by the government, which didn't truly restrict anyone's rights. Also, the Gentleman's Agreement was a compromise between two countries, rather than a law coming from only one point of view in a situation. Although the Gentleman's Act was a compromise, I feel that both acts were discriminating, and unfair to many people. In other words: Both acts were junk.
ReplyDeleteAndrea Diamond Block 4
I think the Chinese Exclusion Act was definetly the worst because it had the government make a law about discriminating Chinese people, who didn't do anything wrong, and not let them in the country. Plus people in the country were treated majorly bad, and they just came here to help us out and for a new life and work we promised them. Not exactly what they had in mind. The gentlemens agreement act was just a little thing about schools, and was nowhere near the impact the Chinese one had on America and Asia.
ReplyDeleteBoth acts kinda sucked though.
Amanda Swoger
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I beleive it to be the chinese exclusion act because it was just a complete one sided act with no rewards for the chinese. It just was a prejudce bill that only got passed becuase of the spoils system
ReplyDelete-Andy Veitenhans
I think that the chinese exclusion act was the worst act because it was just discriminatory against Chinese laborers and had to good in it at all. At least with the Genntlemen's Agreement the Chinese, Japanese, and Korean children didn't have to stay in separate schools anymore.
ReplyDeleteKathryn Demerath block 4
The worst act of the two would have to be the Chinese Exclusion Act. There was no beneficial side to this act and the Chinese were discriminated against for no real reason. Yes the Gentleman's Act was not a pleasant one either, but at least the Japanese immigrants were allowed schooling! Looking back on each of these prejudiced acts they both seem extremely foolish. I have no clue what the Americans were thinking. EEEP
ReplyDeleteErika W. Block 4
In my opinion, both the acts were completely prejudice and immoral, although if I had to choose one that was worse, I'd agree with the majority of the posts that have been made. The Chinese Exclusion Acts was slightly worse than the Gentlemen's Agreement since it was an official law that prohibited the Chinese from entering the country. Apparantly the lawmaker completely disregarded the idea of America being welcoming to all people. Yes, the Gentlemen's Agreement was prejudice also, but at least both parties benifited from the agreement. Although, the Japanese got something that should have been there's anyway, rights for their children to go to American Schools.In short, both are junk.
ReplyDeleteEthan K. Blk 4
I think the Chinese Exclusioin Act was worse because it banned them from even coming into the USA. What did they ever do to America? They just worked as laborers and helped build the transcontinental railroad. Also i think that a redeeming quality in the Gentlemen's Agreement is that the Japanese, Korean, and Chinese could still all participate in school. It was at least fair to allow them to go to school, just not the same schools as the American students.
ReplyDeleteElizabeth Demerath
Going between both the Chinese Exclusion Act and the Gentlemens Agreement I think they are both stupid and pathetic. Yet if I were to choose one I would say that the worst of the two had to be the Chinese Exclusion Act. They were both discriminative and agaist outsiders, saying that they were no longer able to come onto the U.S, but the CEA only started because the Union didn't like that all the jobs were bring taken by the Chinese because they were willing to work for lower wages. Which I feel is a really dumb reason to have to discriminate. Also as most of the other comments say at least the Japanese were still allowed schooling which was the reason I chose the CEA to be worse.
ReplyDeleteLizzy VanKrey
Although both were unjust, I think the Chinese Exclusion Act was worse because this banned the Chinese from entering the country, whereas with the Gentlemen's Agreement the Japanese could at least stay in the U.S. However, I believe they are both junk.
ReplyDeleteStephanie Diedrich Block 3bc
um.i pretty much agree with everyone else, i think the chinese exclusion act was the worse of the two because of the fact that the chinese weren't even allowed into the country anymore while in the Gentleman's Agreement others still could participate in schooling.
ReplyDeleteI believe that the Chinese Exclusion Act is worse then the Gentalmen's Agreement. I think that because, the Chinese Exclusion Act happend for a longer time period then the Genalmen's Agreement because it was a law. Also, the Chinese Exclusion Act was only helping one side, the Americans. While the Gentalmen's act was involved with both sides. In the Gentalmen's Act they at least got to go to school, and in the Chinese Exclusion Act they were not able to enter America.
ReplyDeleteJenna McMorrow. Block 4
I think that the Chinese Exclusion Act was worst because it only benefitted the Americans. Unlike the Gentlemen's Agreement which atleast had a benefits for the americans and the Japenese. But pretty much they are both dumb, and unfair.
ReplyDelete-Hallie Cuomo block 4
ok everyone is saying the chinese exclusion act so what the heck... i say the gentalmen's agreement... if u look really deep into it its just horrible... y would u need a compromise just so our asian friends could go to school!! really! i thought this was a free country and that we were gonna take in the poor and broken of other countrys?!? now its basically... u can either go to school(which u should be anyways) or be allowed to continue entering our country!!!
ReplyDeleteI think that the Chinese Exclusion Act would be the worse of the two options because it was biased and completely preduiced and unfair. Americans let them come into our country to do work for us and then when they were receiving the jobs for less pay unlike the Americans, we got angry and signed this act. The Gentlemans Law was at least an agreement between Japan and our country but both of them were preduiced decisons on our part.
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ReplyDeleteWhile both acts were awful, I believe the Chinese Exclusion Act was worse then the Gentlemens Agreement. The Chinese Exclusion Act went on for a very long time and was not a compromise between the two sides. In the Gentlemens Agreement, at least the right thing was done about segregation in schools.
ReplyDeleteBoth of these acts were unfair and junk.
Brian Zhou
The chinese exclusion act is clearly worse than the gentlemans agreement, at least in the gentlemans agreement the japanese got something in return but in the chinese exclusion act the chinese were just simply kicked out. Both of them are all junk because we only put them in because us americans were to lazy to do that work ourselves but got jealous when others stepped in to do it.
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ReplyDeleteI would have to say that the Chinese Exclusion Act was the worst because it excluded all of the Asians. While the Gentlemens Agreement is bad, it only keeps the Japanese out of San Fransisco. I don't see very good benefits for either of them considering the main point is that we had people from Asia come in, do all the hard labor, then kicked them out while we took the credit for it. It also seemed like they were trying to make it sound not as bad as it really was. All in all it was based on a race issue.
ReplyDeleteBailey Lawless - block 3bc.
the chinese exlusion act was worst because the americans got the only good thing and it made the chinese heritage go down a lot and it blocked chinese and japanese imimgrants from entering the country
ReplyDeletedakota hermes block 4
I think the Chinese Exclusion Act was the worst act because it was unfair and only good for Americans. Also even though they were both unfair, the Chinese Act was a law and had no benefits to anyone accept Americans which was selfish. The Gentlemens Agreement at least was not all negative because the Japanese could still at least go to school.
ReplyDeleteKayla Seidl block 3bc
i think the Chinese Exclusion Act was worse than the Gentlemen's Agreement because the Act affected the everyone in the country, unlike the Gentlement's Agreement where it only affected San Francisco. Although i still think the Gentlemen's Agreement was very wrong. I find it very hard to believe how the United States, land of the free, was barganing for certain rights. In this particular situation, immigration and education, immigration being a big part of America at this time.
ReplyDeleteArmando Coronado 3bc
Although I dont think either act was right, I believe the Gentlemens agreement was a little better becuase more people benefited from it than just the Americans, where in the chinese exclusion act we were the only ones that benefitted. in the Gentlemens agreement at least everyone could go to school.
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The Chinese Exclusion Act and The Gentlemen's Agreement both seem to have lack of reasoning and invalid points. Although both Acts exclude specific ethnic groups, The Chinese Exclusion Act was much worse then The Gentlemen's Agreement. The Chinese Act effected the country as a whole, allowing no education as well as labor. When The Gentlemen's Agreement only toke part in San Fransico, only toke no labor into consideration. As well the Chinese Act lasted many more years than the Gentlemen's Agreement. I do not believe that there are any redeeming qualities from either act, due to the basic fact they both were based off of exclusion, supporting the idea of racism. Therefore they are worthless and have no meaning to me.
ReplyDeleteAlix Wynboom Blk 3bc.
I think that the Chinese Exclusion Act was worse because the Americans were the only ones who benefited off of it, and it lasted for a lot longer amount of time, while the Gentlemans Act didn't last long, and it benefited the Americans and the Japenese because they could at least go to school. I think they are both junk though, becase they aren't fair.
ReplyDeleteAmanda School
I think the Chinese Exclusion Act becease it was an official government document. The Chinese wages went downand prevented them from entering the USA as well. Laboreers also lost their passports. Chinese had to go to a different school and the Japenese didn't have to. The Chinese Exclusion act persecuted for longer than the Gentlemen's Agreement. I think this was garbage because the act was repealed in 1943 which shows it didn't work out.
ReplyDeleteDerrek Hooyman Block 4
I think that the Chinese Exclusion act was because it was made an approved by the government. It also applied to the whole nation unlike the gentlemens act. Also the gentlemens act was a compromise therefore each side partly benefited in some way. In the Chinese Exclusion act only the Americans were benefited. Also the Chinese Exclusion act was evantually made permanent which in my opnion makes it even worse.
ReplyDeleteAnthony Dechant Block 3bc
The Chinese Exclusion act was much worse than the Gentlemans Agreement. The Chinese exclusion act is government approved racial discrimination, the agreement wasnt really a law and it did benefit both sides. Telling the chinese they cant even be in this country is worse than saying the japanese cant be in a certain school. altough both of the things should have never happened in the first place the chinese exclusion act is the worst.
ReplyDeleteJake Gundrum Block 4
The Chinese Exclusion Act was worse then the gentlemans agreement. For the gentlemans agreement the Japanese got to have the schools in exchage for the japanese goverment not giving out passports to laborers, so the Japanese did get something. The chinese exclusion act is worse because it prohibited laborers from comming in, so they couldn't go and get work. It did nothing for them.
ReplyDeleteMollie Turchan Block 4
I think the worst of the two acts is the Chinese Exclusion Act because the chinese laborers were totally expelled from entering the country. There was no arguing it because it was the law. Also the chinese didn't stand a chance even if they did argue it because so many Americans were mad at them for lowering wages. Both acts are bad because both discrimate in some way against asians.
ReplyDeletei think the worst of the two would be the Chinese Exclusion Act because unlike the Gentlemens Agreement, the Japanese and Korean kids were allowed to go to school. Both issues are bad and unfair to both parties but at least the Gentlemens Agreement wasn't all the way legalized and the gov't had made an attempt to make it okay for the Japanese/Koreans. They're both junk. This is discrimination and racism at its finest.
ReplyDeletei believe that the chinese exclusion act was the worst even though it kept unwanted immigrants out of the U.S. but it also kept any child of asian race out of the classrooms which was wrong where as the gentlemans agreement allowed them to go to school but i agree with most of the comments, both are terrible forms of discrimination towards a specific race and even though there was a resason for it it could have been done alot better
ReplyDeleteI think the worst act has to be the Chinese Exclusion Act because it kept all immigrants out of the U.S. In the Gentlemans Agreement asian children were allowed to go to school, so that wasn't as terrible as the Chinese Exclusion Act. I think they are both junk.
ReplyDeleteblock 3BC
I would have to say the chinese exclusion act because the gentlemans act has to do with a benefit to both parties.
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